New Space

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New Space
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Founder:
martian742
Coops:
evilissimo
Status:
active
Created:
2012-06-03
Last Modified:
2016-09-14

introduction

Based on the experience of "lodging" in the cellar at Čápkova 48, it would be viable to find a better place.

Let me say that this is still in the research phase and such a move will require voting and discussion of the pros and cons of moving as well as talking about the features of the old and the individual new spaces. --Martian742 22:06, 3 June 2012 (CEST)


problems of the old space (cons)

  • high humidity - probably still problem
  • heating costs, which have to do with the humidity as well - we haven't gone bankrupt so far
  • accessibility
    • problems with the main lock
  • the renting costs might change, soon (research when)
    • some tenants want to buy their apartments and maybe our space too
    • there are proposed changes in the laws that will cause the rents of city-owned spaces to spike
  • problems with other tenants in the house who have a problem with people coming and going at their will to the base. - doesn't seem to be problem (anymore?)
  • We have to consider "disturbance of the peace by night" problems, if we want to listen at our times to louder music or anything like that - so far no problems
  • Pigeon shit - tasted like chicken
  • not enough space - this is not a problem right now, but will be sooner or later with projects like soundsystem and needing a place to operate woodworking machines

pros of the old place

Some people still want to keep the old place, it would be nice to present advantages of staying here, estimate the heating costs for 2012 and make plans for improving the usage of the old place. --Martian742 22:06, 3 June 2012 (CEST)

  • Current rental price (however might be due to change)
    • Negative view on rental price: The high humidity causes a higher rental price because we have to heat the space even if we wouldn't need it for feeling warm enough
    • Negative view on rental price: The high humidity causes our hardware to fail much earlier then it would be in a dry environment => Additional costs
  • Close to city center
  • Very good public transport connections 2 Bus lines, 4 tram lines in very close range

requirements

Use bold for mandatory items.

  • 24/7 access
  • internet (or possibility of setting up a connection)
  • heating
  • power (380V?)
  • reasonable price
    • at most $n_members*$avg_member_fee
  • no noise-sensitive neighbours
  • low humidity
  • several rooms
    • social room (talking, relaxation & work on your laptop)
    • electro lab (hi-tech mechanical work)
    • mech lab (messy mechanical work, bike repair)
    • kitchen
    • shower
    • (these are just an ideas, no need to hold onto this layout)

potentially good looking spaces that turned out unsuitable (don't waste your time)

  • Industra (afaik no independent/lockable space)
  • Mosilana Hub (no nonstop access, working hours for stupid people), however if anyone wants to do a larger workshop or something like that, they're hackerspace friendly
  • Káznice/Kreativní centrum - Recent unofficial information is that it won't be opened any sooner than 2020. There is a small chance that some space might be available once the sanitation is complete (which could be in about a year), but we never got any confirmation on that (and I don't remember the source). Feel free to try to get some official information for this, but so far it looks much worse than it seemed.
  • any place for rent by Jihomoravský kraj. Due to some conflicts between the city and the region regarding rents, they are asking riddiculous, close to commercial rents (while still demanding specific types of use etc.)

list of possible new spaces (wikipages to be created)

online search

Add links here (or remove them).

real estate agencies

other

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